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		<title>Comment on Dating At Seminary by Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

My story starts back two years ago when I first arrived at Dallas Theological Seminary. 

We had just finished our first week of classes when the school held a &quot;ice cream social&quot; for the whole campus. After dishing up a bowl full of ice and toppings I settled on a table that had about 3 girls and 3 guys. We ended up going around introducing ourselves (all happening to be first semester students) and why we were at seminary. After I shared my desire in mission to unreached people the girl two seats down said the same thing (I thought she was just trying to impress me). We found out we were in the same classes and started sitting only a row or two a part in most of them. Believe or not she ended up transferring to my Greek section the next semester allowing us to spend more time studying together. By the end of our first semester we were spending a lot of our free time together in groups or study lounges. The next semester (Spring of 09) we started officially &quot;dating.&quot; We dated a year, were engaged three months, and now have been happily married for a little over a month. 

The seminary environment is a very interesting place to be in a relationship. There is the whole weird guy thing (geeks) and even the weird girl thing (those looking for husbands). However despite those things it&#039;s a wonderful place to find a mate who is passionate about the same calling. 

The greatest struggle we faced was that of balancing time. There is such much we are telling ourselves we have to do: church, classes, homework, studying, small groups, work, personal Bible study, eating, exercise, sleep, relationships, chapel.... and the list could go on forever. So many things yet so little time.   

One struggle that arose from this issue was that when we were spending time together it wasn&#039;t always profitable time. We were always tired our first semester (or two). As time went on we learned to say &quot;no&quot; to social activities and &quot;yes&quot; to rest and personal devotion.

A few other comments before finishing up:

1) Don&#039;t let other people define the relationship for you (or force you into it.
2) Respect the fact that the girl still has a Dad. Just give him a call and ask to date her, she&#039;ll respect you more and so will he.
3) Don&#039;t be careless with your words.
4) Don&#039;t make any hasty decisions (esp during midterms and finals). 
5) Be quick to say &quot;I&#039;m sorry&quot;
6) Share what your learning in class with one another.
7) Don&#039;t JUST study together, get off campus and have fun. 
 

I would write more but the sleep factor is calling me. 

If you have any specific questions feel free to contact me. 

Blessings,

Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>My story starts back two years ago when I first arrived at Dallas Theological Seminary. </p>
<p>We had just finished our first week of classes when the school held a &#8220;ice cream social&#8221; for the whole campus. After dishing up a bowl full of ice and toppings I settled on a table that had about 3 girls and 3 guys. We ended up going around introducing ourselves (all happening to be first semester students) and why we were at seminary. After I shared my desire in mission to unreached people the girl two seats down said the same thing (I thought she was just trying to impress me). We found out we were in the same classes and started sitting only a row or two a part in most of them. Believe or not she ended up transferring to my Greek section the next semester allowing us to spend more time studying together. By the end of our first semester we were spending a lot of our free time together in groups or study lounges. The next semester (Spring of 09) we started officially &#8220;dating.&#8221; We dated a year, were engaged three months, and now have been happily married for a little over a month. </p>
<p>The seminary environment is a very interesting place to be in a relationship. There is the whole weird guy thing (geeks) and even the weird girl thing (those looking for husbands). However despite those things it&#8217;s a wonderful place to find a mate who is passionate about the same calling. </p>
<p>The greatest struggle we faced was that of balancing time. There is such much we are telling ourselves we have to do: church, classes, homework, studying, small groups, work, personal Bible study, eating, exercise, sleep, relationships, chapel&#8230;. and the list could go on forever. So many things yet so little time.   </p>
<p>One struggle that arose from this issue was that when we were spending time together it wasn&#8217;t always profitable time. We were always tired our first semester (or two). As time went on we learned to say &#8220;no&#8221; to social activities and &#8220;yes&#8221; to rest and personal devotion.</p>
<p>A few other comments before finishing up:</p>
<p>1) Don&#8217;t let other people define the relationship for you (or force you into it.<br />
2) Respect the fact that the girl still has a Dad. Just give him a call and ask to date her, she&#8217;ll respect you more and so will he.<br />
3) Don&#8217;t be careless with your words.<br />
4) Don&#8217;t make any hasty decisions (esp during midterms and finals).<br />
5) Be quick to say &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry&#8221;<br />
6) Share what your learning in class with one another.<br />
7) Don&#8217;t JUST study together, get off campus and have fun. </p>
<p>I would write more but the sleep factor is calling me. </p>
<p>If you have any specific questions feel free to contact me. </p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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		<title>Comment on My First Semester Shock, or Seminarians Without Chests by Dan</title>
		<link>http://seminarysurvivalguide.com/2009/09/21/my-first-semester-shock-or-seminarians-without-chests/comment-page-1/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

I, too am a MDiv student at Denver Seminary, and I am relatively new as I am only entering into my second semester. Already I can feel my devotional time slipping away, while the desire to just study God and not talk to Him rears its ugly head.

I have a few Seminary friends (both graduates and newbies like me) who cannot help but see The Bible as a textbook. That, or they cannot help but over-analyze Scripture instead of just reading it.

Being a relatively new Christian, I still find that reading The Bible for enjoyment is very difficult for me - it almost always feels like work, and it almost always feels a bit...well...dry if I&#039;m honest. I&#039;m not looking to Seminary to fill my devotional time, but I am keenly aware of the dangers of being a student first and a son of God second.

Thanks for your words.

-Dan Cross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I, too am a MDiv student at Denver Seminary, and I am relatively new as I am only entering into my second semester. Already I can feel my devotional time slipping away, while the desire to just study God and not talk to Him rears its ugly head.</p>
<p>I have a few Seminary friends (both graduates and newbies like me) who cannot help but see The Bible as a textbook. That, or they cannot help but over-analyze Scripture instead of just reading it.</p>
<p>Being a relatively new Christian, I still find that reading The Bible for enjoyment is very difficult for me &#8211; it almost always feels like work, and it almost always feels a bit&#8230;well&#8230;dry if I&#8217;m honest. I&#8217;m not looking to Seminary to fill my devotional time, but I am keenly aware of the dangers of being a student first and a son of God second.</p>
<p>Thanks for your words.</p>
<p>-Dan Cross</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recycling Sermons at Seminary by Thomas Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recycling is very very important in order to preserve mother earth.,~.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Internet Sucked Away My Life: Seminary Time Waster #2 by Dawn Lamper</title>
		<link>http://seminarysurvivalguide.com/2008/03/17/the-internet-sucked-away-my-life-time-waster-2/comment-page-1/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Lamper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 01:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love, love, love a new add-on called Leechblock!! Developed by an assistant professor over at Reformed Theological Seminary, Leechblock is a proven grade-saver (specifically, those of us driven by those prevailing winds of internet-blogged doctrine!) It allows the user to block all or specific portions of the internet during times also defined by the user. For instance, I block Facebook from 8:30 A.M. until 5:30 P.M.--those times I am supposed to be studying or, since I assist my seminary from home, working. Plus, in a move surely inspired by the law perfect love, the application is absolutely free. The only drawback is that it only functions as an add-on with Mozilla. However, for the desperate among us the change-over is a small price to pay.

But seriously, this was a costly problem for me; one that yielded little more than a dismal crop of wasted time, frantic attempts at recovery, and most often, despair.

Hope this helps someone. Tim Challies recommends it and--for what it&#039;s worth--so do I.

http://www.challies.com/articles/leechblock-changed-my-life
http://www.proginosko.com/leechblock.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love, love, love a new add-on called Leechblock!! Developed by an assistant professor over at Reformed Theological Seminary, Leechblock is a proven grade-saver (specifically, those of us driven by those prevailing winds of internet-blogged doctrine!) It allows the user to block all or specific portions of the internet during times also defined by the user. For instance, I block Facebook from 8:30 A.M. until 5:30 P.M.&#8211;those times I am supposed to be studying or, since I assist my seminary from home, working. Plus, in a move surely inspired by the law perfect love, the application is absolutely free. The only drawback is that it only functions as an add-on with Mozilla. However, for the desperate among us the change-over is a small price to pay.</p>
<p>But seriously, this was a costly problem for me; one that yielded little more than a dismal crop of wasted time, frantic attempts at recovery, and most often, despair.</p>
<p>Hope this helps someone. Tim Challies recommends it and&#8211;for what it&#8217;s worth&#8211;so do I.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.challies.com/articles/leechblock-changed-my-life" rel="nofollow">http://www.challies.com/articles/leechblock-changed-my-life</a><br />
<a href="http://www.proginosko.com/leechblock.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.proginosko.com/leechblock.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Mr. Ask a Question in Class to Try to Look Smarter&#8221; Guy by Eric Messelt</title>
		<link>http://seminarysurvivalguide.com/2009/01/14/mr-ask-a-question-in-class-to-try-to-look-smarter-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-594</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Messelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 13:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was That Guy, but in a slightly different form. I soon realized I wasn&#039;t that clever so early on in a class session - while I could still track what was being said (before I became completely lost), I&#039;d ask a *short* but hopefully insightful question. The point was to - hypocritically - try to impress the professor (&quot;Ah, he gets it.&quot;) and proactively avoid the later Ask-The-Student-Who-Is-Not-Paying-Attention-A-Question from said same professor. My strategy was a preemptive strike to avoid later embarrassment. It usually worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was That Guy, but in a slightly different form. I soon realized I wasn&#8217;t that clever so early on in a class session &#8211; while I could still track what was being said (before I became completely lost), I&#8217;d ask a *short* but hopefully insightful question. The point was to &#8211; hypocritically &#8211; try to impress the professor (&#8220;Ah, he gets it.&#8221;) and proactively avoid the later Ask-The-Student-Who-Is-Not-Paying-Attention-A-Question from said same professor. My strategy was a preemptive strike to avoid later embarrassment. It usually worked.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick Update by Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 16:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Cindi.  Our Facebook page is up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Cindi.  Our Facebook page is up!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Make Sure You&#8217;re Supposed to Be Here, part three by Julie Holm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Holm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 23:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my church this is required.  Someone who has a call has to appear before our board of Deacons, mature believers, and the group makes a decision to take the person in care. Then that person is in the care of the congregation as they move toward ministry.  This decision also goes to the association, which is a group of many churches that has a committee, of clergy and mature lay believers, that do the same. 

I&#039;ve done both of these, and have a mentor from the association, and the support of my board of deacons, as I move through seminary.  I&#039;m also very active in my church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my church this is required.  Someone who has a call has to appear before our board of Deacons, mature believers, and the group makes a decision to take the person in care. Then that person is in the care of the congregation as they move toward ministry.  This decision also goes to the association, which is a group of many churches that has a committee, of clergy and mature lay believers, that do the same. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done both of these, and have a mentor from the association, and the support of my board of deacons, as I move through seminary.  I&#8217;m also very active in my church.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick Update by Cindi Knox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindi Knox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 16:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We’re very open to your comments and suggestions, so fire away.&quot;

Well, I didn&#039;t find an e-mail address or comment form, so I&#039;m responding to this entry (since the other entry I tried didn&#039;t sem to be accepting comments - I may be wrong on this).

You might consider creating a page on Facebook. Doing so will allow seminarians to share the link to the site with their networks (read classmates), and you can also have Facebook import notes from your RSS feed. Those notes will appear on the Facebook page and in the news feeds of people who fanlike your page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We’re very open to your comments and suggestions, so fire away.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I didn&#8217;t find an e-mail address or comment form, so I&#8217;m responding to this entry (since the other entry I tried didn&#8217;t sem to be accepting comments &#8211; I may be wrong on this).</p>
<p>You might consider creating a page on Facebook. Doing so will allow seminarians to share the link to the site with their networks (read classmates), and you can also have Facebook import notes from your RSS feed. Those notes will appear on the Facebook page and in the news feeds of people who fanlike your page.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My First Semester Shock, or Seminarians Without Chests by Tom Ryberg</title>
		<link>http://seminarysurvivalguide.com/2009/09/21/my-first-semester-shock-or-seminarians-without-chests/comment-page-1/#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Ryberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 15:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this encouragement.  It&#039;s an Enlightenment-era fantasy that we can intellectualize ourselves into our faiths.  Don&#039;t get me wrong: good theology is REALLY IMPORTANT, because bad theology is terribly destructive.  But at some point, it is necessary to put down the books and say, &quot;Lord I believe; help my unbelief.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I agreed with him about the challenges of proper interpretation, but then I asked him, “You mean to tell me that Farmer Jones out in East Texas can’t sit down with his Bible and his morning coffee, pray that God will speak to him through it and expect reliably to hear from God?”

He said, “No, that’s not possible.”

He went on to say that God could speak just as well through the “funnies” in the newspaper as he could through the Bible.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Wow indeed.  It is true that going to the Bible with good intentions does not always result hearing or understanding the Word of God, and I agree with him that God can certainly Speak to anyone through any medium.  But, obviously, any medium would have to include...THE BIBLE.  With or without &quot;acceptable&quot; exegesis.  Sheesh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this encouragement.  It&#8217;s an Enlightenment-era fantasy that we can intellectualize ourselves into our faiths.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong: good theology is REALLY IMPORTANT, because bad theology is terribly destructive.  But at some point, it is necessary to put down the books and say, &#8220;Lord I believe; help my unbelief.&#8221;</p>
<p><i><br />
<blockquote>I agreed with him about the challenges of proper interpretation, but then I asked him, “You mean to tell me that Farmer Jones out in East Texas can’t sit down with his Bible and his morning coffee, pray that God will speak to him through it and expect reliably to hear from God?”</p>
<p>He said, “No, that’s not possible.”</p>
<p>He went on to say that God could speak just as well through the “funnies” in the newspaper as he could through the Bible.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Wow indeed.  It is true that going to the Bible with good intentions does not always result hearing or understanding the Word of God, and I agree with him that God can certainly Speak to anyone through any medium.  But, obviously, any medium would have to include&#8230;THE BIBLE.  With or without &#8220;acceptable&#8221; exegesis.  Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>Comment on My First Semester Shock, or Seminarians Without Chests by steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 13:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the &quot;Golden Rule #1&quot; does not say &quot;WORSHIP&quot;.  It says, at least in most interpretations, &quot;LOVE&quot;.  Not really the same thing.

And, please don&#039;t deign to tell me that my manner of loving God is not as good as yours, or not what I should be doing.  Don&#039;t you dare tell me that.  I don&#039;t care if you&#039;re a minister in a church I attend, or some other congregation or denomination.  You&#039;re confusing Faith with Religion.  That is a huge difference, and a huge misinterpretation which causes a lot of turmoil in people&#039;s lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the &#8220;Golden Rule #1&#8243; does not say &#8220;WORSHIP&#8221;.  It says, at least in most interpretations, &#8220;LOVE&#8221;.  Not really the same thing.</p>
<p>And, please don&#8217;t deign to tell me that my manner of loving God is not as good as yours, or not what I should be doing.  Don&#8217;t you dare tell me that.  I don&#8217;t care if you&#8217;re a minister in a church I attend, or some other congregation or denomination.  You&#8217;re confusing Faith with Religion.  That is a huge difference, and a huge misinterpretation which causes a lot of turmoil in people&#8217;s lives.</p>
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